In this episode we dive into tales and concepts from the 2019 Stories Ultra. Sam Wagner and Kate Welle join Sherpa John to listen to race interviews and discuss the subject matter. First, we hear from Desiree Ritchie (Fountain, CO) and the concept of trust, earned vs. given trust, and how as runners we must learn to trust ourselves. We also dive into why it is that ultra runners tend to trust each other. Then we hear from Logan Froelich (Colorado Springs) and discuss the concept of how we need to feel pain to truly live a full life.